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Conversation with Elisabeth
Kubler-Ross
By John Harricharan
Far away in Switzerland
in the mid-nineteen twenties, triplets were born to
a family that expected only one child. Weighing in
at about two pounds, Elisabeth Kubler was not
expected to live. But the love and care of her
parents coupled with the indomitable spirit of
Elisabeth herself gave the world one of its noblest
daughters.
Best selling author (she
has written over sixteen books), lecturer, teacher,
physician and philosopher, Dr. Elisabeth Kubler-Ross
is perhaps the world's foremost authority on death
and dying -- yet there is nothing somber about
Elisabeth
John:
You have been close to death many times.
Did you not have any fear of it?
Elisabeth:
Death never frightened me. It is as much a part of
living as anything else. I have faced it so many
times it is no longer an enemy.
John:
Do you believe in the continuation of life after
death?
Elisabeth:
I not only believe it, I know it. I have always
seemed to know it. I also know that life is
forever.
John:
There is and "unreasonableness" to death. It seems
to come in the strangest and most unexpected ways.
Do you think we choose our time or is it
pre-assigned?
Elisabeth:
We have certain tasks that we came to accomplish.
These tasks also contain within them much learning
for us. We learn from each other and also teach
each other. Our time is not pre-assigned. When we
finish our tasks, then we go. Children who die
young are some of our greatest teachers. We are
allowed to die when we have taught what we came to
teach and when we have learned what we came to
learn.
John:
Can we communicate with loved ones who have gone
on?
Elisabeth:
If you are ready and if you are at a high enough
spiritual level. It can be done through dreams and
also through other methods. I always tell bereaved
parents, after they have given up their heaviness
and resentment, to say, "I really need to see you
in my dreams. I need to know that you're okay." If
there is a lot of sadness and anger, the one who
has gone on cannot come through. But if the
conditions are right and there is enough faith,
the contact will occur in dreams.
John:
I described an incident in my book, When You
Can Walk on Water, Take the Boat, wherein I
met my father who had died a year earlier. He said
to me, "Son, when you are facing a difficult
problem and need my help, go to sleep and we will
meet under the tamarind tree in the little village
by the river. There we will see what we can do
about your problem." For me, it was an extremely
moving and comforting experience. How real does
that seem to you?
Elisabeth:
Yes, I remember that story in your book! It's a
fantastic book and I've given many copies as
gifts. The experience with your dad was more real
than real! The story was delightful and very
moving and will help so many people.
You see, our life on
this planet is about ninety percent illusion. We
create it the way it appears to be, but there is
much more to it than that. You met your dad on a
different level of reality, but it was as valid as
anything else you do. Keep meeting him; he will
help you and continue helping you.
John:
Sometimes I also feel the presence of my wife
around me. She died when she was only in her
thirties. There are times when I think I hear her
voice. Today, the message was, "Don't worry. It
will all turn out better than you can imagine. You
must get rid of sadness and bring more joy into
your life. Then and only then will you hear me
more clearly." Was this just my imagination?
Elisabeth:
Oh no, not at all! It really happened! When you
get rid of the heaviness around you, you will
begin to have more and better communications. Even
now you can have dialogues with her.
They always want us to
be happy. She had accomplished her tasks on earth
and now she wants to help you accomplish yours.
You do not need any special preparation. All you
have to do is be yourself as brilliantly as
possible and all the other things will follow.
John:
What do you think about spirit guides? Do you have
any?
Elisabeth :
One day a woman in Virginia asked me into her
house and wanted to know if I believed in fairies.
I told her that I wasn't turned on to fairies but
would like to know about my guides. I believed
that there were such things as guides, but up to
that time I had never seen any.
She handed me a
Polaroid camera and asked me to take a picture of
any part of her garden. I thought this was a
strange request, but I took the shot nevertheless.
As the picture developed, imagine my surprise when
I saw a fairy right in the middle of it!
John:
You actually saw it?
Elisabeth:
Yes, of
course! There it was, pretty as ever, looking at
me. So that afternoon I though to myself, if a
camera can take pictures of fairies, then it
certainly could take pictures of guides! So I took
my husband's expensive camera, went up a small
hill, looked into the woods and said aloud, "If I
have a guide, I'd like to see him or her
materialize in a photograph."
I pointed the camera at
the trees, took two pictures, went home and forgot
about the whole thing. Weeks later when the
pictures were developed, there, on one of them,
was the figure of a tall American Indian with a
hand stretched out towards me. Needless to say I
was thrilled! That was my first encounter with one
of my guides.
John:
Didn't these experiences precipitate some bad
press?
Elisabeth:
Oh, you wouldn't believe it! There were some
people who thought that a physician should not be
involved with such things and so, rumors started.
They tried to discredit me and to destroy my
career.
It was really bad. And
then, one day, I said to myself that I must stop
their nonsense. I was going to be giving a lecture
in New York City to approximately 5000 people, and
I knew that more than half the audience would only
be there to see who this weird Elisabeth Kubler-Ross
was. Before the curtain opened, I sincerely asked
my guides to help me. As I started to walk out on
the platform, I strongly felt their presence with
me. It was one of the best speeches I had ever
given. And from that day on, all the controversy
died away. My guides had again helped me through a
difficult situation.
John:
Have you had any experiences with out-of-body
travel?
Elisabeth: Yes, I have had spontaneous
personal experiences with out-of-body travel. Many
of them were so vivid and so beautiful that I
became extremely moved. These experiences seem to
happen by themselves. All I have to do is trust.
John:
As a child, did you feel that you had psychic
abilities?
Elisabeth:
Such things were never discussed. I always felt
different and I always knew I was protected. As a
little girl, I had a secret place in the woods
where I would go to communicate with the animals,
the trees and the shrubs. I even used to do
something like a sun dance. I have always been
close to Nature and I think there is much we can
learn from it.
Note from John Harricharan:
We can go on and on with questions and answers but,
this writing, which started out to be an article,
would end up being a book. So I will stop here. I
trust you've had a glimpse of the world of Dr.
Elisabeth Kubler-Ross. I further trust that your
journey through this life will be a grand and
glorious adventure, full of all good things.
Dr.
Elisabeth Kubler-Ross' research
Dr.
Elisabeth Kubler-Ross
is recognized as one of the leading authorities in
the field of death, dying and transition. It can be
said that she is the one responsible for creating
this field of study. She is the author of several
books including:
On
Death and Dying
and
Life
Lessons.
Another book of hers,
On
Life After Death,
collects for the first time information drawn from
her years of working with the dying and learning
from them what life is all about, in-depth research
on life after death, and her own feelings and
opinions about this fascinating and controversial
subject.
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